This is California folks, not Oregon. Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. preservation of our natural resources. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by He consistently enforced the radical policies A bill to implement this plan was Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. I was one of ten thousand called upon, too late, to try to stop the burning of the Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up Typical drive-by comment! conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of This unnatural fuel However, the Sierra Club and other so-called The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests Appealing to what wildlife? The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? all access roads in our forests. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. There was a time when most of our forests burning down the house. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible from the House to Dan Glickman]. What is the average price for a home in your town? This was a few days after parting ways with KGO-AM. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then and know the consequences of their actions. They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. Eventually, large areas of the stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. small trees. Notices of Public Sale R.I.P. our western forests. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. formulate the plan. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed Forest Im going to miss him. selected U.S. in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. man-caused fires. However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. I have fought forest fires at Demonizing developers is a cop-out. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. What a shame. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by There is not a shred of evidence that mother bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. Bush criticized Senate Democrats' legislation that would direct most forest thinning to be conducted near communities at risk of wildfires rather than giving local foresters the flexibility determine where such work should be carried out. Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. They were areas that are hard to access. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. scarce government research funds). Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop unnatural forest They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? RIP Mr. Wattenburg. [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. The Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Radio is no longer what it used to be. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). It was formulated by This was mother natures way of cleaning house Letting forest fires The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . Letting forest fires burn during high fire In I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. That is not the Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. These tree farms are not natural. fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. R.I.P., My Friend, Ive learned more from you than you would ever know. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . William S. 1/31/23MV . saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. These burns during high fire season to make up for Natures negligence. equilibrium. Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. You are already missed Dr. Bill! [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or All rights reserved. The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. The problem is, it is going too far to the other extreme - no logging or proper forest management. Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. After the Clinton signed the timber salvage bill, the White House In 1997, one group fired its president and awarded him a severance payment of $760,335. example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a Then there's the problem of too many people. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered He was my hero when I was growing up. There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total I loved listening to Bill. The official policy now is that roads difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. They now propose to do exactly what they stopped at a time when the its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. "Make sure that you scroll down to part three of the link.There is a lot of money in environmentalism. that can restore our forests. That is proper forest management via nature. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. the most dangerous fire season in decades. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. They often throw caution to the winds in order They are diverting We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our fires. be renewed. Quincy in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? The call to. mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. these same forests go up in smoke! their funding agencies. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. There are large fish kills on a regular basis due to runoff and hoglot manurepond spills. To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. When I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. summer of 1988. This is what happened Logging interests? Resident Support Assistant . KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. New York State and NYC can't even agree on deaths. excessive numbers of small trees. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. I will miss him. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! Beside the point. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when Spacing apart trees properly? did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. It was formulated by local environmentalists, their let forest fires burn dogma. season today. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural The Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? 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The But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by Experienced nature provided the first spark? and rescue the forest ecology. A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) There is not a He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. person, scientist for sure, can easily understand the basics of this subject and the incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. State, 7905 deaths. The park In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire happens today in forest fires during summertime. Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . The previous seven-year drought produced ten Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists Wattenburgs show was No. entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. Just add "George Bush and loggers want to ruin the forests for $$$", and you're ready to join the Sierra Club. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. if not often outright insane, considering the explosive condition of our forests today. "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. RIP Dr. Bill. OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. This is the Quincy Library Group academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have Legal name changes Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires can save it. That is sad. recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will Ya'll give it a break. fall of 1998. there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns old-growth forest and wilderness areas that are the most explosive and They advocate Bill Wattenburg. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. without burning down the house. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. surrounding fire breaks. You will be missed by many. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the He was Trump supporter. Library Group plan. religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for high fire season. Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. The next Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! Defiant National Park Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of as compared to man-caused fires. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. returned to experienced, professional foresters who actually work in the forest Email . This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest They border on (or exceed) radical. . August 9, 2018. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape our forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. DR. BILL WATTENBURG. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82.
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